Disappointment with Doctors and Hospitals - What is the solution?

Some one using the name "FATHER" wrote the following statement on LRE page.  

I just want to share my experience at Bahria town Lahore hospital. I moved to Bahria few years back. I have a small family (wife + 2 children). Before coming to Bahria we were living near DHA phase 1 and used to check our children from National hospital defence.

Being at Bahria, I really like its infrastructure and management. But I had horrible experience at BT hospital. Operationally its even worst than any low standard government hospital. Its infrastructure is very good but it is full of Dakooz instead of doctors. I have been taking my children to BT hospital child specialist, Dr. Shahid since moving to Bahria. Every time we go there, he changes all the medicines and we've to go to him several times for a small disease. My house has become a mini pharmacy with all children medicines.

And worst thing is that even if you are going after 2 days to tell him that your last given medicine had no effect, he expects you to pay full fee i.e. Rs 800. If you've not paid that fee, the style of checkup will be changed altogether. You'll be made to wait for hours and given only 2 minutes. In those two minutes you get new list of medicines.

Other than this BT hospital has no mechanism of appointment. Even if you've taken appointment, ppl. come, pay some extra money to receptionist and will get token number before yours. This is total rubbish......

If you have some reference in Bahria hospital management, kindly forward this complaint to them and request them to investigate this issue.

Thanks

A FATHER

Ali_from_Karachi replied on Tuesday, February 12, 2013 09:17 AM PST I guess you need to put some wheels to your child's file too, its the slogan of Bahria Town. Just sarcasm, I hope your child gets well soon, Insha-Allah.

Naveed replied on Tuesday, February 12, 2013 10:36 AM PST Try to have media's attention. If someone from the readers at this form can help to involve media. This will be great to put the dakoos online.

Adnan replied on Tuesday, February 12, 2013 11:11 AM PST Brother, all doctors and hospitals are dakooz. We need to educate ourselves about day to day illnesses, mainly flu which hits the children 5 to 6 times a year. My daughter used to stay sick half the year around and she was taking a lot of medicines. Then two years ago, I decided to stop unnecessary medications for symptoms like common cold and flu, started giving fresh orange juice and fresh carrot juice everyday, religiously. Now my daughter only had a minor flu last year which lasted for a few days, cured without any medication, just soups and rest. Alhamdulillah, build your child's immune system and avoid going to hospitals. Medicines destroy the child's system and our doctors are too fond of giving medicines. Good luck.

Fedupofdrama replied on Tuesday, February 12, 2013 05:55 PM PST I would say Pakistani Doctors should not only given medical education but humanity/ethical education to not be greedy for money only but keep in mind Khauf-e-Khuda. You all are already aware of Young Doctors drama has been going on for long now affecting common man in Government hospitals. Young and old doctors are part of society and they r at their peak of greed and selfishness. Mostly, we being nation are so lazy and want shortcut or ways to earn huge money without working hard. These doctors are really enjoying to be on strike and doing nothing and wasting their times and knowledge on the streets/roads. If a country's economic situation is bad then they should not think to have high salary. They should look at developed European countries like Greece, Ireland, Spain etc. which are already in highest recession and there is pay cuts and job losses for high earner as well. Only few doctors are God fearing in our society. May Allah give me, you and special Hidayaat to Doctors to help huminity and once they start doing that, Allah will bless them and us and put peace / sakoon in our life and family that we will not have fear of low income. Ameen.

Afzal replied on Wednesday, February 13, 2013 03:48 AM PST AOA, I am also living in Bahria town Lahore but currently out from Pakistan .My children also goes to Dr.shahid for check up. We never had any bad experience in bahria hospital.i took my mother for check up few times in last one year to Maj Dr Iftikhar and Eye Specialist. All Doctors there I found very cooperative and friendly. I think if we get good service we should appreciate that and if someone had bad experience should bring in to notice of bahria hospital Management. God Bless to All.

Doctor replied on Wednesday, February 13, 2013 08:09 AM PST Brothers not all doctors are Dakoos,it's only that you perceive it as such.Regarding fees you people are ready to pay Lacs in fees to lawyers,lacs to builders,thousands to fast foods and restaurants,tens of thousand per month to City schools,beachon house,Frobels etc but when you have to pay some hundreds to a very well qualified doctor you start crying.Your this attitude has led the doctors leave the country to places where they are highly paid and highly respected and you people are left with Quacks( fake doctors) who are really looting the people like Jehly Peers. Besides at least at Bahria they have kept real qualified doctors. Doctors are the only professionals who are competed by the fake doctors in Pakistan, no other professional. Allows any fake person to work in his place. The whole society is responsible for that. I pray for the health of each and every one of you.

Hussain Kaisrani replied on Wednesday, February 13, 2013 08:48 AM PST Afzal Sahib, Thanks for your comment. I feel Mr Father should have courage to write all this by disclosing his identity as he is mentioning name of Doctor on this public forum. Secondly he should have registered his complaint by himself instead of asking the whole world to do this for him. At least he should have dropped his complaint in the complaint box in the hospital. Like many others, I am also not happy with the philosophy and treatment system of doctors and hospitals. They are certainly serving to pharma industries instead of curing their patients. On the other hand Pharma industries also take care of Doctor's benefits as they are their clients not the patients. Generally doctors do not have time to check the patient properly. Also in this treatment system Doctor has nothing to do but to write another medicine for any new symptom. I fully agree with Adnan Sahib that we should keep the hospitals and Doctor away by developing immunity (specially in children case). After understanding the business model, philosophy and treatment methods of Doctors, I studied other alternatives. I found Homeopathic treatment system more easy, simple as well as scientific. The beauty of this system is that it is easy to subscribe single remedy if patient is able to describe more symptoms. And in many cases single dose is enough (especially in case of children if their immunity is not ruined by DOCTORS). The solution to keep doctors away (as much as possible) from your children is to have only three items in your home: 1. Bio Chemistry (Urdu book by H.Dr. Masood Qureshi) 2. 12 Biochemic remedies (Salts) - in the start only in 6x and smallest packing. 3. Mini Medicine Bag - A travelling bag of 36 remedies (It is a small bag which you can have in your pocket. It also contain a booklet - in English - for guidance. If any further guidance is required, I am always there to help. Remedies will be used either from item number 2 or 3. And ONLY single remedy will be taken at a time. All of these three items will cost you not more than Rs.2,000/= and these are enough for your family for years. And it is NOT true that Homeopathic remedies have no side effects at all. As children love to take Homeopathic remedies so try to keep these remedies away from your children away.

MOTHER replied on Wednesday, February 13, 2013 09:52 AM PST MR HUSSAIN KAISRANI WHICH SHOP IS RECOMMENDED TO BUY THESE THINGS IN LAHORE NEAR DHA OR CANTT, THANKS A LOT FOR YOUR KINDNESS GOD BLESS

Hussain Kaisrani replied on Wednesday, February 13, 2013 08:33 PM PST Dear MOTHER, I would suggest you to place your order to Masood Homoeopathic Stores as they also dispatch the packet through VPP. Their store is situated on Allama Iqbal Road, Lahore. They are best and reliable homeopathic medicine manufacturer in Pakistan. You may contact them for further information or placing your order: http://www.masood.com.pk/demo/index.php OR HOMOEOPATHIC STORES & HOSPITAL 30 – ALLAMA IQBAL ROAD, LAHORE – 54000, PAKISTAN TEL: 92 42 36302360, 36293296

father replied on Wednesday, February 13, 2013 08:36 PM PST @Doctor Sir the problem is not to giving heavy fee to doctors. even after paying private fee, doctor's ignorance is there.

Arif replied on Wednesday, February 13, 2013 08:38 PM PST Since Kaisrani sb brought up homeopathy let me mention that decades ago a retired civil servant in Islamabad used to practice Homeopathic medicine from his home based clinic in F-6 Islamabad. My father went to see him for severe Sciatica pain. He could hardly walk when he went there and was given the first dose right in the clinic by the kind doctor (for which he did not even charge anything). Within minutes of first dose his pain was completely gone and has never returned. Unfortunately this doctor is now deceased but If someone has similar good experience with some doctor they should share his contact online. Also beware of overly commercial type practitioners who secretly use Steroids in there medicines for quick results at the cost of patients long term health.

Hussain Kaisrani replied on Thursday, February 14, 2013 06:34 AM PST @ Arif Sahib, I fully agree with your views about Homeopathic Doctors. The Doctor you mentioned was Qazi Ahmad Saeed (What a great man - Zubaan peh Baare Ilaha Yeh Kis Ka Naam Aya) who has written two books with titles 1) Howash Shaafi 2) Moaljaat. Both of these books are published by National Book Foundation Islamabad. Another H Doctor of same caliber was H Dr Safdar Ali of Bhalwal (Sargodha) who also wrote two books (1. Wahi 2. Homeopathic Tariqae Ilaaj) Dr Asad Safdar S/O Dr Safdar Ali is practicing classical Homeopathy in USA. I am really impressed by his knowledge, treatment and diagnosis. He charges his fees in US dollars and dispatches medicine from there. He can be contacted at asad.safdar@gmail.com In Lahore, one of Dr Asad Safdar's student Mr Saqib is also practicing Homeopathy with a mission and service attitude. I am also practicing classical homeopathy on the footsteps of these Gurus. You can contact me through email or facebook or visit me in Safari Villas Bahria Town Lahore. Email: kaisrani@gmail.com Facebook: fb.com/kaisrani

Arif replied on Thursday, February 14, 2013 11:42 AM PST Thank you Hussain Kaisrani sahib for sharing such good information. You are always very helpful. Regards.