Thursday, December 31, 2009

Want to rent out your Safari Villas Bahria Town Lahore

Renting out Safari Villas, Bahria Town Lahore
Following email and my reply is related to renting out Safari Villas, Bahria Town Lahore.

Hello Mr kaisrani AA
Hope you are in best, i always reading your advices throw internet every time, I appreciate in your honest guidance to the people.
I purchased 8M serina villa in safari villas in Nov 2008, i did not found it in same specifications of house and society in 41 lac according my full budget . Alhamdulliah,
Actually i am living in ..... and i am looking to give my villa for rent from the first of Feb. 2010. Please let me know what rent i expected and if you can help to find me a good and small family and they do keep new as i purchased.
Next thing i saw some of terminate in ground flour entry door and wondering by it was terminated?
Thanks and best regard
My reply:

Salaam and may thanks for remembering me.
Its nice to know that you are a member of Safari Villas Lahore.
Safari Villas Lahore is a under priced project. Nowadays it is hard to construct a home of same specification in Bahria Town less than Safari Villa price.
There is no problem to rent out a villa in Safari Villa project. The monthly rent is going on 18,000 to 19,000 per month (depending upon the location of villa). Three month's security plus three months advance rent is given to the owner on finalization of contract. You pay half month's rent to the dealer for finding a reasonable family for your renter. Generally civilized people come to reside in Bahria Town who do not destroy the house but when it is used it is certainly disturbed a bit. One can keep these points in the contract that the rentee will give the home in same situation on which he is getting it. Reasonable wear and tear is always expected.
When you will be renting out your villa you need to provide following things properly installed or fixed:
1. Lights in each holder (Which Bahria Town provides on possession)
2. Fans where required (8 in total general) = Estimated price = Rs.15,000/=
3. Geyser = Estimated price and installation and pipes etc = Rs.16,000/=
4. White wash if it is not properly managed = Estimated price = Rs.10,000/=
5. Water points on back boundary of villa as well as on laundry area on first floor = Estimated price = Rs.2,000/=
6. Curtain railings = Estimated price = Rs.8,000/=
7. Net door on main door and kitchen door if not installed by Bahria = Estimated price = Rs.12,000/=
8. Net on all windows (if it is not installed by Bahria) Estimated price = Rs.18,000/=

Number 7 and 8 are optional but good to do so before renting a villa for the betterment of home and renter.

If these all items are installed properly then a renter will have nothing to do to Villa. He can only disturb white wash or colour which is understandable.

A family should be small and reasonable to deal with. You need to start searching a renter from second week of January.

Termite treatment has been done in Safari Villas but if a new home (which is of course wet) remains closed then these problem may occur any time.

Please feel free to contact me if I am able to do any thing for you. Please use my email address for a prompt reply.

With best regards,
Hussain Kaisrani

Oversea Pakistani replied on Friday, January 1, 2010 11:26 AM PST

Hussain Kaisrani,
What about the 8 marla house situated in the Ali block.What will be the rent even some dont Have the Gas. Thanks for your usfull input always. HAPPY NEW YEAR

Hussain Kaisrani replied on Friday, January 1, 2010 11:54 AM PST

Dear Oversea Pakistani,
Ali Block
Bahria Town Lahore is better located than Safari Villas and all the houses are newly constructed and have better layout plans but it is not easy to rent (as well as to sale) out a house in Sector B. Generally the houses are made for personal residence or for sale so in both cases there may be only few houses available for rent in Sector B. There is also a problem of nonavailability of gas connection in Ali block which is main hurdle to rent out a house. Besides the quality of security and services in Sector B is not as per standard of Safari Villas. Safari Villas is an icon and Bahria Town keeps on improving its icon in Lahore.
The rent should be around Rs.17,000/= in Ali Block.

limo replied on Friday, January 1, 2010 03:39 PM PST

Dear Mr. Kaisrani do you recall any incident ever occured because of security being lax in Sector - B.I personally feel that its not fair on part of
Bahria to discriminate between Safari and rest of the Sector B residents, specially when it comes to security. Now for instance if i dont want to reside in Safari villas (as there have been frequent complaints about the drainage problems, and poor construction standars) but want to construct a house of my own choice in Sector B,do i have to compromise on security !!!

Tariq replied on Friday, January 1, 2010 04:21 PM PST

Hussain Kaisrani can you tell when ring road interchange will start construction next to bahria town

Hussain Kaisrani replied on Friday, January 1, 2010 10:16 PM PST

Dear limo,
I can not recall any serious incident ever occurred related to security problem in
Sector B BUT I can recall a very minor problem once occurred in Safari Villas with my family in year 2006.
I put packets of fruits and vegetables on my villa's gate and went to see my family in the park as the home was locked and I did not have keys with me. I could not find them in the park so I decided to go for a walk. When came back my family was there in the home and I supposed that the packets were picked by them. About after an hour it was revealed that my family did not find any thing on the gate. I called the security in charge who responded with in few minutes along with his staff who were very much concerned. They took the responsibility without blaming me why I had put the packets outside the gate. I was asked for very minor detail of things and every point was noted down. My life partner get bored with the situation and said to Major Sahib for forgetting every thing as these were eatable things so no problem if some one needy has taken for eating. Major Sahib explained that he/she is his enemy who has taken our things and he will never let his enemy go freely. So a special plan was made to check each and every one on gate. A security person was assigned to keep eyes on garbage drums to find from where the waste of these items come out. etc etc.
After about an hour I was informed that missing items are located and these were delivered to us. This was year 2006 when only few families were living in Safari Villas. Of course the situation may not be as good now.
In Safari Villas security staff takes the responsibility of taking care of a villa in absence of an owner if it is notified to them. I am informed two of Lahore Real Estate visitors that their things were missing and Bahria Management provided new items against the missing ones.

I hear stories that water pipes, wires and kids bicycles have been stolen in Sector B. When asked this to the security staff then they give only suggestions to keep things under lock and key or to have your own watchman etc to take care. It is understandable because Sector B is crowded by too much labour class and too much transportation of trucks, tractors etc is under process day and night and it is NOT a gated wall community yet so security situation is not as good as it should be BUT it is NOT bad either.
Though I have not seen any problem of drainage in Safari and poor constructions has also been managed for (at least) my home even then I have started construction of my home in Ali Block. Though security level is not as per of Safari Villas but there is no need to compromise on security over there. Problem may happen in Safari Villas as well as in Sector B but for any serious complaint security staff will respond. Bahria Town management claims that their special force can respond within five minutes in any corner of Bahria Town Lahore. It also include under development Sector C.
I am sorry for this lengthy detail. Hope the matter is clear now.
=== Tariq Sahib ===
I do not have any proper information regarding Ring Road interchange close to Bahria Town. Sorry.

Tariq replied on Friday, January 1, 2010 11:56 PM PST

Thank's any way
Hussain Kaisrani sahib

Dr Usman replied on Saturday, January 2, 2010 12:22 AM PST

Kaisrani sahab, why there is a problem of gas connection in
bahria town?Will this problem be solved in near future and does sector c also has gas connection problem.

Hussain Kaisrani replied on Saturday, January 2, 2010 12:39 AM PST

Salaam Dr Usman Sahib!
Gas connection in
Bahria Town is not a problem at all as gas line has been made available by Bahria Town. It is really a great job by Bahria Town Lahore management. The problem is with the Sui Gas office.
We discussed the issue with Malik Riaz Sahib during our last meeting assured us that it will be sorted out within year 2009 as he has brought the matter in the notice of Sui Gas MD. But the problem is still there. I understand it has not been followed by the related Bahria Town office managers.
As per my information one can get gas connection within a month but after paying the COST of time saving.
The good point is that you can apply a gas connection on your plot before starting the construction. In this situation you will be having sufficient time to wait.

Dr Usman replied on Saturday, January 2, 2010 07:10 PM PST

Thanks kaisrani sahab for the prompt reply. Best wishes for your new house. Hopefully you will share your experience of house construction with us.
Take care

DR KHOKHAR,NY,USA. replied on Saturday, January 2, 2010 07:33 PM PST

Dear Kaisrani sb,I am thankful to you for your useful information to all of our friend.i have afew plots in overseas cat A
lahore.can you tell me what is deveopment status of that many houses are building there.bahria town promise top notch development and facility in this area.what do you think about future of this area.are the people are moving from lahore to this you think it is good investment.thanks for your information.

Hussain Kaisrani replied on Sunday, January 3, 2010 08:10 AM PST

Thanks for your kind remarks.
Overseas Enclave A
Bahria Town Lahore is developed and ready for construction of houses. Five houses are under construction and one family is residing in a newly constructed house of 10 Marla. I do not see any thing special in development or area which can differentiate Overseas Enclave A from the remaining Sector C other than location. In this price it is certainly a good investment as constructor are flooding to Bahria Town (though too much activity is still inSector B only but reasonable construction is under process in Sector C as well).

DR KHOKHAR,NY,USA. replied on Sunday, January 3, 2010 08:19 AM PST

Dear Kaisrani sahib,thanks for you more question.
bahria is taking development and possesstion charges.theas charges includes what facilities.thanks

Hussain Kaisrani replied on Sunday, January 3, 2010 01:06 PM PST

The possession and development charges are for providing facilities of electricity, water, gas, parks, mosques etc and these are meant for all community. The detail is also provided on the back of application form.
Possession charges means the demarcation and plot plan provided on paper which is an approval to start process of construction on your plot.
But for getting utility connections for plot (house) the owner are supposed to pay at the time of starting construction.


Wednesday, December 16, 2009

Safari Villas Bahria Town Lahore - How to buy it?

Some time ago I received following email. It is being reproduced with a reply for future record and information to visitor of my blog.
I am a member of LAHORE REAL ESTATE forum for last and half year. All your replies,or all your listing regarding Bharia town, always beneficial and informative not only for me but also all other members for the forum.
I think that it is not your responsibility to answer my email, but as a cooperative fellow,as i always found u helpful,i can only request some information's regarding safari villas. I you like and you have some spare time for some information's, i will be grateful and thankful.

First of all I would introduce myself, I am an overseas Pakistani, living here in Manchester for last 5 years, my spouse and kids are living in pakistan.I am planning to come back to pakistan within next 2 years. and after further 5 years Iwill be need to move to Lahore for the education of my children, as the remote area of punjab where i live there is no facility of the education.

Now i come to the point, I have hard earning money around 5 millions. i want to by 8 Marla safari villa, preferably corner one.
I have seen some 3 D picture of these villas and i like the VILLA SERENA.
but, I do not know about the price range, there is a huge price difference in dealer prices,some are asking i will be ready within next two months, some are asking they have keys in their hands. any way I do not know about the location of that villas, which villas location are better than the other villas, or, as regarding serana villa what number villa are on a good location and which one on poor location,
Secondly, which serene villa is ready for possions and which one are under construction.
If i make my mind to buy one from where i can i buy, and what is the price. Can u give me some contact number for that, i have called lahore real estate but they have not availability.
I read CMY rates probably fortnight regarding the safari villa non occupy, occupation time 4-8 months.
can i get this.
I will be thanks full and appreciate your kind views.
I replied it as follows:
Brother ------------ Sahib,
Please feel free to contact me as and when it is needed.
All of your concerns about Safari Villas are practical and these should certainly be made clear before buying the Villa.
Yes! Safari Villa Serena should only be the choice for families shifting from remote areas. There are many tips which should be considered if there are options available. The most important tip is to buy a villa which is ready to move with possession. Do not trust any one about time as it is upto Bahria Town when they provide the possession of any villa. No agent or buyer can make it finalized if Bahria is not ready to do so. If I am informed about a number of a Villa I will give you an idea of its completion date. It will be at least time and if Bahria stop working on it then no time limit can be estimated.
It is not possible to give you some lines about the constructed or under construction villas. Just to give you an idea in this regard that we got possession of our home in July 2006 and few homes in our lane or street are still under construction. On the other hand if you provide me the No. of a Villa which you are thinking to buy, I will send you a report on it.
Nowadays it is very hard to find a proper villa on proper rates. Lahore Real Estate does not offer high rates to a seller and due to this limitation they could not manage it for buyers.
It is nice that you are doing your home work but the final decision should be taken after a thorough visit of Safari Villas project. Sitting in UK you can not see the situation around the Safari Villas project. As it is your hard earned money so you should work hard to make this important decision of your life. Your family can easily live here as there are many families living without any male member. Every thing here is systematic so a common house wife can manage her home in Safari Villas easily.

In my opinion best situated Serena Villas are 129 - 162 as far as ground realities are considered. The map provided by Bahria has lots of changes in it.
I will strongly suggest you to keep in touch with LRE for buying a Villa on proper market rates. You are not in hurry and chances come when they have available Villas for sale. One of my old friend (from London) bought a Villa (474) last year from Adil Saeed. It is nicely located and on corner as well as on 50 ft road on 37.50 Lac. They are so happy and are not ready to sell on 42 lacs now. They will work more hard if you can depend upon them and are a serious buyer.
You may discuss the matter with me on phone if needed as every thing can not be explained in writing. Thanks.
With Regards,
Hussain Kaisrani