Bahria Town and its Chairman Malik Riaz Hussain by Khushnood Ali Khan

Courtesy: Daily Jinnah, October 29, 2009

http://epaper.dailyjinnah.com/?pg=2

http://epaper.dailyjinnah.com/?pg=3

Canal Road Lahore is being constructed by Bahria Town - Photos on October 28, 2009

Malik Riaz Hussain and Bahria Town Lahore - The Other Side

Safari Villas Bahria Town Lahore: A Living Experience (Part 6)

Bahria Town residents had nothing to think what will happen if the news about Malik Riaz Hussain and his arresting appeared in daily times Lahore is true. Only people who wished it should happen seemed worried about it.

What is going on in Bahria Town nowadays shows that Malik Riaz Hussain has no worries about these matters.

Bahria Town has taken extra ordinary measures regarding security and safety of its residents. Bahria Town's front line security men are wearing bullet proof jackets. They have installed more cameras.

Their petrolling police has increased its movements. They have now introduced an Urgent Response Force which can reach in every corner of Bahria Town Lahore with in five minutes.

When all the schools in all over Pakistan were closed Bahria Town School Lahore taken a challenge to open it but with amazing security measures. Later on it was also closed as per Government instructions.

Bahria Town is full of life even in these bad and sad days. Its CineGold Theater is announcing new movies every week.

Lahoris flooded to Bahria Town during last week. Every Saturday and Sunday there are lines of cars, parks are full of kids and families, House full Theater. Bahria Town Lahore is taken as a safest place for family outing.

Bahria Town main roads are full of lights and colours with a different look almost every second night.

Bahria Town keeps on changing driving routes for its residents within Bahria Town for traffic control experiences and security measures.

Bahria Town Management family is planning a marriage ceremony for which out class arrangements are being done from last week which is adding more beauty in the area.

Bahria Town Lahore has itself taken a step to complete the under construction canal road from Thokar to Bahria Town. They are doing work from yesterday (day and night). The speed of work tells that it will be completed the one side today (within 48 hours).

A national level car race was arranged in Sector C on last Sunday.

Water Filtration Plant is also available in Bahria Town Lahore.

No power outage is seen in Bahria Town Lahore. Yes! Its TRUE.

Bahria Town is providing jobs to thousands. They are providing three time meals to its workers along with shelters. Bahria Town's minimum monthly salary package is Rs.8,000/= Besides all these great things Malik Riaz Hussain is an ordinary man (like you and me) and he is also business man and does many things which are, of course, not appreciate able.

Tips and Guidance for Construction of your dream home in Lahore Pakistan

1. The construction of your dream home – Part 1
2. The construction of your dream home – Part 2
3. What does Gray / Grey structure mean in construction? What is included in GRAY STRUCTURE and what is NOT?
4. Latest House Construction Cost, Rates and Estimated Time of Completion in Lahore - Pakistan (Updated on November 05, 2014)

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(Please NOTE that following rates and information are of 2009)

Labour Costs only in DHA Lahore

Rs 140 to 185 Per Sq Ft Covered Area. Boundary walls and garage etc cost extra.
Best house labour contractor is Mr Shafi 03224418638 or 03334206144

Electrical work

Rs 10 to 15 per sq foot covered area. Best Electrical work is done by Mr Ilyas 03004057753

Plumbing work

Rs 12 to 18 per sq foot covered area. Best ploumbing work is done by Mr Farooq 033344787963

Best steel is Model Steel 1/2 inch 40 Grade Rs 54000 per ton
Best steel is Model Steel 1/2 inch 60 Grade Rs 56000 per ton
Other low quality steel bars are sold as low as Rs 50000 per ton. You risk losing lot of money due to improper wighting and cheating by many other dealers.

Best dealer is Basra Steel on Walton road, Lahore

Bricks Rs 3350 to 3500 per 1000 for Awaal.
Best Dealer is Khalil 03224050244 or 03004335892

Sand is Rs 7 per Sq foot for Ravi and Rs 13 for Chanab Sand.

Bajri Rs 30 Per Sq foot to Rs 32 Per sq foot
Best Sand Bajri dealer is Mian Building Meterial 03004994824

Cement DG 330 t0 333 Per Bag
Cement Mapleleaf 335 to 338 Per Bag.
Best Cement dealer is Ch Zaheer 03018431731or 03028431731

Ch. Mujahid Yasin (CMY)

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Wednesday, April 22, 2009 01:28 PM PST

Sir can you please advise in Defence who sells the best quality / price bricks? cement, steel and what are the on going LABOUR rates - any details would be appreciated.

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CMY replied on Tuesday, April 21, 2009 03:53 PM PST

Kamran sahib this information is for DHA Lahore area only.

Who sells the best quality /price steel?
Basra Steel at Walton road is best with quality weight and is little higher in price. Lower priced guys cheat you in weight and your net cost will be much higher.

Who sells the best quality /price bricks?
Khalil 0322-4050244
Faisal 0321-4221404

Who sells the best quality /price sand or crush?
Mian Building Material 0300-4994824

Who sells the best quality /price Cement?
Ch Zaheer 0301-8431731

Who is the best quality /priced Plumber?
Farooq 0333-4478796

Who is the best quality /priced Electrical work?
Ilyas 0321-4287225

Who is the best quality /priced steel grills?
Ijaz 0321-4287225

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FAHD replied on Wednesday, April 22, 2009 02:47 AM PST

I want to share some useful information with my fellows who what to have some idea about construction. First of all i want to mention here that all the information i would be sharing with u people is based on the personal experience as last year i started the construction of my 1 kanal house in dha phase 5.

1 year back we negotiated the contract for labor on 150 per sq. ft only for civil work.

But being a lay man at that time about the construction we missed some points as in this rate they dont included the contruction of boundary wall, spectic tank, under and over ground water tanks. construction of shades on the windows, khacha floors etc. if i add all these expenses then rate becomes 195 per sqt.ft instead of 150 per sqt.

So my brothers the idea behind telling u this thing is that obviously contractor would be charging for these things but u should clear them before and specially ask for them as usually these are hidden things we dont bother about at that time.


About electricity rate we went for lump sump contract @Rs.75000/-(each and every work like pipe fitting in the walls and roofs, stwitch and back box fittings, wiring, light fitting etc).

About sanitary again we went for contract Rs 75000/- (all sanitary work like sewerage lines , wash and kitchen water points, fitting of all sanitary fixtures, water supply pipeline, gas pipeline and contactions)

Wood work @ RS.250000/ (All doors with wardrobes in 5 bed rooms and two kitchens)

I would say that u should hire separate contractors for electric and sanitary instead of joint contarct.

In the end i want to conclude my discussion here by saying that u cant define overall per sqt. ft rate as it purely depends on the fixtures u r using e.g u can buy one wash room tiles @ Rs. 200000/ and in the same price u can easily have 4- 5 wash room tiles. so its relative question deepened upon the taste and buying power of people, one cant generalize. u can complete ur house in 1200/ sqt and u can also do it the same in 2500/ sqt.ft.

About brothers who wanna want to go for turn key contract please should take into account this particular fact and go for detailed contract about deciding each and every detail.(type of material used in finishing)

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khan replied on Wednesday, April 22, 2009 04:25 AM PST

Great input Mr.Fahd. What about the managment.Did you have a professional like architect or some friend/relative who supervised that work for you. How about the time line. Did the contractor meet that. How to ensure the work meeting the promised/agreed time line.
Thanx

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irshad replied on Wednesday, April 22, 2009 09:23 AM PST

dear Fahd
very detailed info and nice picture of construction. can you please tell that in the contractor's cost of 195 per sq foot electricity bill of 75000 and sewerage bill of 75000 was included or not.
thanks.

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CMY replied on Wednesday, April 22, 2009 11:03 AM PST

Thanks to Fahd bhai for detailed post. His info is 100% accurate and rates are same currently too.

I hired a civil contractor at Rs 135 per sq foot covered area. Basement is at 175 per sq foot covered area. Boundary wall, main gate , shades, septic tanks, water tanks, garage floor, floor on street are not included in price. My contractor is a great person with a lot of experience in dozens of houses constructed in DHA Lahore Sui Gas phase 1 Valencia etc. He says he cant afford new contracts under Rs 150 per sq foot and for basement Rs 185 per sq foot. His Name is Shafi 03224418638 and 03334206144. I would recommend this guy to all friends. A good person should be referred to every one in my opinion.

I would suggest some cautions for new house builders. When they unload bricks make sure they don't leave gaps in brick being unloaded to increase the count. Don't ever buy bricks from trolleys on road sides.They guys cheat you big time in count and quality buy giving you lower rate. Buy bricks from kiln owners or their agents. Never pay advance money to these guys until you get the bricks of the quality you were promised. They unload first three four loads of good brick than start cheating you. Change brick supplier immediately after first bad bricks supply.

Dont buy steel from small dealer or from Badami bagh. These giys cheat you big time in wieght. Buy steel from largest dealer in DHA called Basra steel.

Dont buy cement from small dealer. Their cement is OLD and most of the time wiegh less and they charge you for carriage too if you dont ask them from free carriage. Buy cement from larger dealers. They get fresh load from factory and have warm cement most of the time because their circulation is too much. Larger dealer give you best rate and carriage is included too if you order 100 bags min. Best cemenet is Maple leaf and 2nd best is DG cement. There is largest cement dealer on Ghazi road near airport infront of Devine center. His name is Ch Zaheer. His is the least expensive and is mainly dealer of DG but also will give you lowest rate for Maple leaf too. When ever a large cement dealer tells you a rate chances are you can get Rs 5 less than the rate you are told.

Try to give min advance amount to grills maker plumber electrician wood worker aluminum worker etc. They guys do disappear with your money if you give them large advance or give you hard time and delay the work for many days. When you give advance to any guy take a receipt and must check their NIC and try to get a copy. Do a written agreement for things decided.


Khan bhai a watchman and a supervisor is must needed and pay is responsibility of owner. A watch man should be paid 7000 to 10000 and supervision pay is from 10000 to 15000. Supervisor buys all the supplies and keep the work in rhythm.

Irshab bhai Rs 75000 each for plumber and electrician is not includer in construction contractor. Its separate from civil work contractor.

Choudry Mujahid Yasin (CMY)
0322-4009967

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CMY replied on Wednesday, April 22, 2009 11:35 AM PST

I need help of friends that bought the wood and marble recently. I have done very little research for these. Lets help each other and share your experience and knowledge.

Best steel is made by "Model Steel".
Best Anti termite treatment is done by "FMC Corp".
Best Cement is made by "Maple Leaf".
Best Paint is made by "ICI".
Best electrical plastic pipe and fittings are made by "Popular"
Best electrical wires are "FR Cable"
Best plumbing pipe and fitting are made by "Dadax". Dont use Turky made pipe and fittings or you will get leaking complaint latter.

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Thank you especially to CMY.

All noted with GREAT THANKS from everyone.

Please advise which is a good place to buy Bathroom Tiles, Flushes, Tiles, Taps etc etc

Also CMY Sabib what are you estemating your per SQ FT cosnt will be Approx [I know it depends upon Mateial etc].


(Ahmad) Hussain Kaisrani replied on Wednesday, April 22, 2009 02:06 PM PST

Salaam CMY!
After reading recent posts of brother CMY, I can easily predict (though I NEVER announce predictions) that he is entering in construction business as well. After getting these minor details and information he should not have any problem in constructing another home.

I agree with CMY that a good person should be referred to every one. I want to recommend a very nice person Mr. Mubarak which deals in grils and related work. He has a good aesthetic sense and committed person with his clients and work.
Mr. Mubarak can be contacted at Ali Steels 03004248977.
Thanks.

M.Yousaf replied on Wednesday, April 22, 2009 05:56 PM PST

CMY/Kaisrani Sahib:
Any idea about the good carpenters, tile fixers, Aluminum windows/steel windows makers, interior/exterior decorator in Rawalpindi/Islamabad?
I am sure your best guys in Lahore will recommend some good trade persons or they themselves may be having their own businesses in twin cities!


CMY replied on Wednesday, April 22, 2009 06:04 PM PST

Hussain Kaisrani bhai many friends do request us that we enter in this business but we are reluctant to get into this field because its a very tough job. An old man like me with largest belly in town cant handle this type of hardship anymore :). If We ever get into building houses business we will must need help from many good friends like you. It cant be done alone.

Just got this little experience with building my own house (My house is in very early stage so I got no knowledge of wood and marble yet).I wanted to share my experience so far with others. I want to let them know what I learned the hard way. May be some one some where could benefit from it.



Fahd replied on Thursday, April 23, 2009 02:02 AM PST

First of i want to thank all my brothers who appreciate my this post.you know in pakistan ,very few people have the courage to appreciate some body input.

I would start from answring some questions my brothers ask here.As Mr kHAN asked about the managemengt control i personally supervised the whole project as i have spare time these days.we hired an artichet Mr .perviaz mughal,his office DESIGN ZONE and is located in L Block, DHA. He is true professional with over 16 years of experience on hand. he provided all the drawings of civil work,electricity points, lay outs for wash rooms and bedrooms, drawings for marble and tile fixing, false celing etc.

As for as time line for completing the project is concerned typically 1 kanal house take atleast 12 months to get complted , if the work is carried out without any break. if festivals are coming in between then obviously it would be delayed coz labour come back only when they are fginished with the money (e.g two eids then for sure they would be delay for 1 month).it all depend upon the provision of material(noo delay should be occured from ur side).AS for as delay from contractor is considered , normally good contractors complete the projects in the anticipated time frame but it depends on mutual cooperation.

Mr IRSHAD 195 sqft is exclusive of sanitary and electricity charges.

Fahd replied on Thursday, April 23, 2009 02:51 AM PST

WELL CMY BHai as u asked to share information about buying material especially wood and marble and fixtures i would recommed the follwing places:

MARBLE

Haqeeq Marble and Granite , ATARI Industrail area, Ferozpur road.

The most commonly used marble in the local market here are BOTISENA CREAM and CHINA VERONA.

The rate of marble depends upon its thickness, normally two sizes are therei-e 4 sutar and 6 sutar. 4 sutar material is less expensive as comapred to 6 sutar and the differenece between the prices very much visible.

both 4 sutar botisena cream and verona cast u @ Rs95-125 sqft for sizes up to 1*1 and 1*2 depending upon the lot. some points that detemine the rate here are colour variation, meaurement of size etc.Another problem with 4 sutar is that the shop keeper would sell u this as 1* 1 size but acually when u measue it u would find it as 6 inch less from both ends.i dont know the science but its the norm of market here.

Both 6 sutar botisena and verona cost u from Rs 280 - 350 sqft for the size u want. no matter whther u want 2*2 or 4*4, ACTUALLY it is known as slab material in the market the benefits of getting is no colour variation, actual size etc.

Wood

Some of woods that are availble in the market with there rates are as follows"

TEAK WOOD RS 4800 - 5200 per cubic feet.

Diyar Wood RS 1500 - 3000 per sqft
Note (in diyar ther is very big issue of knot and thats why there is so much variation in the rate. Knot free diyar would avaialble in the market nealy @ RS 2500 -3000. I would recommed if ur going for diyar then go for medium grade from which u can easily have fine wood for ur doors but have to compromise some how on ur wardrobes may be u would use it in inner side.I t would cost cost u apprximately RS 2100 -2300.)

ASH Wood Rs 1900 - 2100 sqft. ( unseason is also available even in 1700).

Overall very good wood when it come to its grains, price is also very attractive but one problem is that it shrinks in inital few seaons and sometime doors struck in between.

Maghony Wood Rs 2500 - 3000 sqft.

Latest edition in the local market and so for very few people are using it according my knowledge. but i strongly beleive that this wood has its future.

Beach Wood is also available in the market but i am not in postion of quoting its rate.


The most famous wood dealers in DHA are

Punjab Timber
World Wood

I would recommend u to go for WORLD WOOD ghazi road. The owner is Ashraf sahib very nice person, prices are compartively low than Punjab timber (not much difference). i personally dont recommend for punjab timber rest is left on u after visting both the places make ur own decision.

In my next post i would try put some light on santiary ware etc

(Ahmad) Hussain Kaisrani replied on Thursday, April 23, 2009 08:48 AM PST
Fahd Sahib!
Your post is very useful and informative. Due to this page many people like me have started understanding real estate philosophy but no proper and practical information on construction of home was available. Your input may guide friends of other cities to provide information with contacts of professional sound people in this business. Keep it up please!

There are many solutions of heat proofing being offered in print media ads. If you or any of friend can share his experience in this regard. Any easy and economical solution (without involvement of MISTREE RAJ etc) for my own home (4 Year old) is personally requested.

CMY replied on Thursday, April 23, 2009 01:34 PM PST
Fahad sahib once again your very good info is highly appreciated. It will be a lot of help when I will be looking for wood marble and sanitary ware.

Sajjad replied on Thursday, April 23, 2009 08:15 PM PST
Dear Sir !
Thanks to all gentlemen contributing to this very informative post.
I would like to second Mr CMY's reccomendation for "FR Cables".
I believe this is "Fire Resistant Cable". A few days ago their team came to our office for a presentation.
They gave a practical demonstaration of their product. They put the sample of cable on flames and it did not burn. There was no smoke either. They said their cable can reist fire for 9 hours, while officially they claim for 3 hours resistance. The price of the cable is quite reasonable, not more than a good quality normal cable.
I write here the name and phone number of their representative in case any friend wants to contact him for information or to buy the cable: Mr. Qamar Yasin (0303-482-3705)
Courtesy: LRE

Medical Education in Private Sector in Pakistan and China

Dear ..... Sahib,

W Salaam,

Many thanks for your kind words.

Yes! Govt. of Punjab has finished self financed scheme in Govt. sector Medical Colleges. The list of private sector recognized Medical Colleges is given below. I have copied it from Pakistan Medical and Dental Website

PUNJAB - Private Sector Medical Colleges
S.No.	Medical Colleges
12.	FMH College of Medicine & Dentistry, Lahore Recognized. www.fmhospital.org	Allowed to admit 100 MBBS students per year.
13.	Foundation University Medical College, Rawalpindi www.foundation.edu.pkwww.foundation.edu.pk	Recognized. Allowed to admit 100 MBBS students per year.
14.	Islamic International Medical College, Rawalpindi. www.iimc.edu.pk	Recognized. Allowed to admit 100 MBBS students per year.
15.	Lahore Medical & Dental College, Lahore . www.lmdc.edu.pk	Recognized.Allowed to admit 100 MBBS students per year.
16.	Shifa College of Medicine, Islamabad. www.shifacollege.edu	Recognized. Allowed to admit 100 MBBS students per year.
17.	Wah Medical College, Wah Cantt. www.wahmedicalcollege.edu.pk	Recognized. Allowed to admit 100 MBBS students per year.
18.	University Medical College, Faisalabad http://umc.tuf.edu.pk	Recognized. Allowed to admit 100 MBBS students per year.
19.	University College of Medicine & Dentistry, Lahore www.uol.edu.pk	Recognized. Allowed to admit 100 MBBS students per year.
20.	CMH Lahore Medical College, Lahore. www.cmhlahore.edu.pk	Recognized. Allowed to admit 100 MBBS students per year.
21.	Islamabad Medical & Dental College, Islamabad.	Recognized. Allowed to admit 50 MBBS students per year.
22.	Independent Medical College, Faisalabad. Recognized. www.indmedcol.com	Allowed to admit 50 MBBS students per year.
23.	Sharif Medical & Dental College, Lahore www.sharifmedicalcity.com.pk	Recognized. Allowed to admit 100 MBBS students per year.
24.	Continental Medical College, Lahore.	Recognized. Allowed to admit 100 MBBS students per year.
25.	Akhtar Saeed Medical & Dental College, Lahore	Recognized. Allowed to admit 100 MBBS students.
26.	Central Parks Medical College, Lahore. www.cpmcollege.com	Recognized. Allowed to admit 100 MBBS students.

CHINESE MEDICAL/DENTAL UNIVERSITIES
1	Shanghai Medical University 138, Medical College Road. Shanghai 200032 http://www.shmu.edu.cn/
2	Xian Jiaotong Medical University West Xiao Zhai Road Xian 710061 Tel:+86(029) 5276747, 5276121 Fax:+86(029) 5276646 http://www.xjtu.edu.cn/
3	Beijing Medical University 38 Xue Yuan Road Beijing 100083 Tel:+86(10) 201 7620 Fax:+86(10) 201 5681 http://www.bjmu.edu.cn/
4	Shanghai Second Medical University 280 South Chong Qing Road Shanghai 200025 Tel: +86(21) 632 008 79 Fax: +86(21) 632 029 16 http://www.shsmu.edu.cn/
5	Peking Union Medical College 9 Dong Dan San Tiao Beijing 100730 http://www.pumc.edu.cn/

Its not appropriate to catagorize these institutions as 1, 2, 3 as I am not elegible to do so. Just to give you general opinion these are catagorized as:

1. Fatima Memorial Medical College (its both for men and women). Its on top due to the reason its hospital (Fatima Memorial Hospital) is working since more than 20 years and is situated in the center of the city (Shadman Lahore). Good and busy professor avoid wasting time in travelling to college.

2. Lahore Medical College (Ghurki)

3. CMH

4. All the remaining are almost on same level. Its just for your information that Akhtar Saeed Medical College is situated in Bahria Town Lahore.

Pakistani institutes are far more better than Chinese one. Its worth mentioning that merit of these private sector medical colleges are almost the same as of Govt. Sector institutes. But Chinese medical colleges give admission bit easier and these are much very economical for completing the degreee.

Please feel free to contact me if you ever that I am able to do any thing for you.

With best regards,

Hussain Kaisrani

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Dear Kaisrani sb

Assalam-o-allakium

You proved to be a multi dimensional personalities. I read your output at Lahorerealestate site which is always informative.

While I am away from Pakistan for the last almost more than one decade probably you can guide me about medical colleges information in public sector as well as private sectors.

My first question in this regard is: Whether govt has abolished self financed seats in govt colleges? If not, how much is annual fees?

What about the private sectors colleges, can you give them No.1,2,3, to following instutiton in Lahore:

Fatima Memorial (is it only for females or male also)

Sharif Medical Complex

CMH

Gorki

Any other, kindly add to this list

How do you compare China medical study with our medical instutitons in Pakistan specially in Lahore.

I will bother you time to time on this subject provided if you donot mind.

Thanks in advance. You guidance will be a great help finalizing my son's future. Right now he is in 2nd year.

Regards

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Bahria Town Lahore decreases its electricity rates

I am amazed to inform you that Bahria Town Lahore has decreased its electricity rates for its residents. On the other hand their power supply is now fully uninterrupted and there is no concept of load shedding or power outage in Bahria Town Lahore.

In the start (2005-2006) Bahria Town Lahore started charging flat rate of Rs.7 per unit and then increased the rates to Rs.9 per unit and provided generator back up during load shedding hours. The quality of power through generators was not satisfactory as tripping was very common. Now Bahria Town Lahore has its own dedicated grid station which provides electricity without any problem.

During our latest meeting we requested Malik Riaz Hussain Sahib for decreasing electricity per unit charges and school fees. He agreed to discuss the matter with his team. It was decided that school fee can not be decreased without effecting the standard. However electricity rates has been revised as follows:

Rs.1.40 upto 50 Units

Rs.3.20 51-100 Units

Rs.4.96 101-300 Units

Rs.8.03 301-700 Units

Rs.10 Above 700 Units

We were supposed to pay Rs.4500/= for September 2009 but we have been charged Rs.3393/= including Govt. Taxes.

I appreciate Bahria Town Lahore for taking this generous step only for the betterment of its members.

Bahria Town Lahore: Security Charges Per Month of Sector B Plots and Links Road from Lahore Canal

limo asked on Tuesday, September 29, 2009 02:22 PM PST
Dear Hussain Kaisrani, i appreciate your prompt reply. No power outages in Bahria, its an info and really unbelieveable.
Just one point left, Dr. Usman, having a plot in Sector-C has been asked for possession charges by 30th october 2009 otherwise he will be charged a fine @1.5% of remaining dues.
But Sector - B plot holders have no remaining dues, any idea how Bahria is going to charge them for not taking possession.It would be nice to hear from some Sector - B plot holder, who has received notice of such kind.
Thanks again Kaisrani bhai

Hanan asked on Tuesday, September 29, 2009 06:36 PM PST
Hussain Kaisrani sahib previously you mentioned that Bahria Town is building 2 separate roads from Multan road linking to Sector C. Can you please give more information such as, are they under construction right now and where exactly will they be joined to Sector C.

Regards asked on Wednesday, September 30, 2009 10:04 PM PST
1200 ruppes for 10 Marla house residents or 1 Kanal marla residents, please clarify.
Regards,

Hussain Kaisrani replied on Thursday, October 1, 2009 08:39 AM PST

Dear limo,
Thanks for your kind words brother!
Bahria Town Lahore will charge to its Sector B members for not taking the possession when either they transfer (sell) their plot or request for possession. Until now there is no surcharge on this monthly amount.

Dear Hanan,
Though I never said that Bahria Town Lahore is building two separate roads from Lahore Canal (not Multan Road) linking to Sector C but I strongly believe that it will do so as there is no reason to use (present) Khayabane Iftikhar (Executive Lodges Road) for all of its sectors or projects.
These links are:

1. The road in between Overseas Enclave and Gulmaher Block
2. The road after Janiper Block near to under construction Islamic Center.

I have no doubt that Bahria Town Lahore will have direct link with Multan Road Lahore but not yet reached to any conclusion of its route. In one of the meeting Malik Riaz claimed that Bahria Town Lahore is only 50% on ground and my vision of its shape, size and facility is still hidden. His wordings were Aagay Aagay Daikhiay Hota Hai Kia. Lets wait and see.

Dear Regards,
1200 rupees are charged upto 10 Marla house. Meaning whether a house is 5 Marla, 7 Marla, 8 Marla or 10 Marla the monthly charges will be Rs.1,200/=
For 1 Kanal it is Rs.2,000/= per month. Hope It is clear now.
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Courtesy: LRE

Why does Bahria Town Lahore charge per month from its residants

In the start (2005-2006) Bahria Town Lahore used to give detail of this monthly charges when the amount per month was Rs.700/= In 2007 they increased the amount to Rs.1,000/= per month and removed full detail. Since last month they increased the amount to Rs.1,200/=. Hope you know that every community has its residants association which manages few common things of mutual interest for the betterment of residents and charge some amount on monthly basis. BahriaTown is economical from all other societies but providing more facilities. Though Bahria Town has not officially provided a complete list of services against this monthly amount but to me these are as follows:
1. Security
2. Cleanliness of Roads and garbage collection twice a day.
3. Water bill
4. Water filtration plant
5. Free transport as per Bahria Schedule
6. Street Lights
7. Parks. Gardening related matters outside of home boudary specifically and inside the homes boundary (on request in Safari Villas) in general.
9. Air conditioned and best maintained Masajid arrangements
8. Fire Brigade (which also helps to throw water in water tank of homes if due to some problem water is not available)
9. 24 hour maintenance service
10. 24 hour ambulance service and emergency treatment (on Rs.50/= fee to avoid unnecessary rush)
12. Celebrations on national days, Musical programs and other recreational activities
13. In short you name it they have it. And Bahria does not charge for all these items other than Rs.1200/= per month.
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Bahria Town Lahore has no problem of power any more. They have developed the system by spending millions Rupees. Generators back up is now an old story. Bahria Town Lahore has its own dedicated Grid Station. I have not seen any power shutdown (for a minute) other than some technical fault during last few months. May be it seems unbelievable but it is true.
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As question was asked about Bahria Town Sector C so I remained in it. Otherwise it is equally true for other sectors of Bahria Town Lahore. Bahria Town charges Rs.500/= as a security when plot is ready to construct a home and the owner does not take possession. Thanks to Dr Usman for making the matter more clear.

limo replied on Tuesday, September 29, 2009 02:22 PM PST Dear H. Kaisrani, i appreciate your prompt reply.No power outages in Bahria, its an info and really unbelieveable. Just one point left, Dr. Usman, having a plot in Sector-C has been asked for possession charges by 30th october 2009 otherwise he will be charged a fine @1.5% of remaining dues. But Sector - B plot holders have no remaining dues, any idea how Bahria is going to charge them for not taking possession.It would be nice to hear from some Sector - B plot holder, who has received notice of such kind. Thanks again Kaisrani bhi

Hanan replied on Tuesday, September 29, 2009 06:36 PM PST Kaisrani sahib previously you mentioned that Bahria Town is building 2 separate roads from Multan road linking to Sector C. Can you please give more information such as, are they under construction right now and where exactly will they be joined to Sector C.

Monthly Charges in Bahria Town Lahore and Possession of a plot

Jameel

Hussain Kaisrani Sahib, would you give detail what Bahria Town Lahore administration is charging per month from Kanal, 10 Merla and 8 Merla Houses, At the same time pls tell about water electricity and Gas rates.
Please also clarify if there is difference in these rates in Safari Villas and sector B self built houses.

Dr Usman replied on Saturday, September 26, 2009 12:58 AM PST

Dear Hussain kaisrani sahib is there any draw back or is it SAFE if I dont take possession of my plot in sector c which is an on ground plot with all dues clear except possession charges.
Regards

Hussain Kaisrani replied on Monday, September 28, 2009 10:19 PM PST

Salaam!
Bahria Town Lahore is charging per month from ALL of Bahria Town residents as follows:

upto 10 Marla = Rs.12,00/= (It remained Rs.1,000/= during last three years)
Upto 1 Kanal = Rs.2,000/=
Upto 2 Kanal = Rs.3,000/=
From above 2 Kanal = Rs.4,500/=

Bahria Town is not charging for water until now. Gas bills are not under Bahria Town controls. For electricity they are charging flat rate of Rs.9 per unit. Bahria Town Lahore has full control on electricity so we are not facing outage of power any more.

These rates are same for all Bahria residents including Safari Villas Lahore.

Dr. Usman Sahib!

Generally there is no draw back if you do not take possession of your plot in Sector C. Its recommended that you should take possession of your plot if you can manage to pay possession charges and not interested to sell it in near future. In Bahria Town policy the only PERMANENT factor is CHANGE. They may increase possession charges or can announce any extra surcharge to whom who have still not got possession. For a safety point of view there is no need to worry. Its equally safe when you got possession letter but the final document from Bahria is possession letter or site plan.

Courtesy: LRE

Awami Villas Lahore Bahria Town Master Plan

At last Bahria Town Management has issued Villa numbers to its Awami Villas members. As expected Bahria Town CHANGED the location of these villas which is now very far away from Lahore. Technically it may be a part of Lahore but practically its Raiwind.

The master plan of Awami Villas project is being reproduced here for general information. The member may check the result by clicking here.

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Bahria Town Lahore Sector C and Overseas Enclave A Rates and Updates

aslam
Can you tell when BT sector C remaing blocks posseion will be givern from adminstration of BT no reasonable reply i recived.

Hussain Kaisrani replied on Wednesday, May 27, 2009 08:27 AM PST aslam Sahib! Please make it clear in which block in Sector C, Bahria Town Lahore you are interested to know? Your plot No. etc etc. Thanks.

shakeel.m@swiftfreight.co replied on Wednesday, May 27, 2009 04:06 PM PST Dear Hussain Kaisrani sahib You are expert of bahria town lahore can you tell me the approximate rat of my plot in bahria town overseas block A number is 366 (10 marlas). I will be thankful . Best Regards Shakeel

aslam replied on Wednesday, May 27, 2009 08:01 PM PST janiper block 240 1 k

Fakher-ul-Hassan replied on Wednesday, May 27, 2009 09:23 PM PST Hussain Kaisrani sahib, Assalmoalikum! Please tell me the status & Price of my 10 marla plot (464) in Iris block of sector-C of Bahria town. Best regards. Fakher-ul-Hassan

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Hussain Kaisrani replied on Wednesday, May 27, 2009 11:03 PM PST

aslam Sahib!
Your plot (240 Janiper Block Sector C Bahria Town Lahore) is shifted to (most probably within) Janiper Block. If you are in Lahore, please visit Bahria Town office (in Bahria Orchards Raiwind Road Lahore) to get confirmation and possession. Bahria Town is offering possession in Janiper Block now. I am pretty sure that you will not have any problem in getting an upto date information about your plot if you visit Bahria office. Thanks.
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Shakeel Sahib!
Thanks for remembering me. I did receive your email. As you have put your querry here so I am writing my reply on this page instead of sending you an email reply.
I am sorry to disoppoint you that I am NOT an expert of Bahria Town Lahore. I am in learning process so my views should be taken as a student not as an expert.
Your plot (366 Overseas Enclave A, Bahria Town Lahore) is idealy located. Though I am not involved in direct selling or buying but can give you idea of on going rates. Its price is about 16 Lac thought its worth is more than 20 Lacs. Good luck brother!
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Fakher-ul-Hassan Sahib!
Thanks for remembering me brother! I am sorry for not being able to provide you any good news. Your plot is NOT an on ground plot and Bahria Town has not yet developed it. You should directly contact Bahria Office for knowing its updated status. I think that it has been shifted to Bahria Orchards. Its price (in any case) is Rs.2 Lac less whatever you have paid to Bahria Town.
Thanks.
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The Art Of Loving

Erich Fromm (1900-1980) was both a practicing psychoanalyst and a committed social theorist. He has written many books. Last night I was reading his book The Art Of Loving. Its a small size book but every single word of it needs attention and special consideration. The concepts and clarity about LOVE is main point and focus of the love. He has very rightly made his introductory point:

The first thing we have to learn is that love is an art, just as living is an art; if we want to learn how to love we must proceed in the same way we have to proceed if we want to learn any other art. Maybe here lies the answer to the question of why people in our culture try so rarely to learn this art, in spite of their obvious failures: in spite of the deep-seated craving for love, almost everything else is considered to be more important than love: success, prestige, money, power - almost all our energy is used for learning of how to achieve these aims, and almost none to learn the art of loving.

In last and fourth chapter of the book he says

in order to practise an art, including the art of love, one has to keep in mind certain general requirements. As far as love is concerned, discipline, concentration, patience are needed.

 I was amazed to know his views that one should not FALL IN LOVE but should STAND FOR LOVE. Love is not falling but standing.

Here is a list of his great work:

Escape from Freedom (US), The Fear of Freedom (UK) (1941)

Man for himself, an inquiry into the psychology of ethics (1947)

Psychoanalysis and Religion (1950)

Forgotten language; an introduction to the understanding of dreams, fairy tales, and myths (1951)

The Sane Society (1955)

The Art of Loving (1956)

Sigmund Freud's mission; an analysis of his personality and influence (1959)

Psychoanalysis and Zen Buddhism (1960)

May Man Prevail? An inquiry into the facts and fictions of foreign policy (1961)

Marx's Concept of Man (1961)

Beyond the Chains of Illusion: my encounter with Marx and Freud (1962)

The Dogma of Christ and Other Essays on Religion, Psychology and Culture (1963)

The Heart of Man, its genius for good and evil (1964)

Socialist Humanism (1965)

You Shall Be as Gods: a radical interpretation of the Old Testament and its tradition (1966)

The Revolution of Hope, toward a humanized technology (1968)

The Nature of Man (1968) 

The Crisis of Psychoanalysis (1970)

Social character in a Mexican village; a sociopsychoanalytic study (Fromm & Maccoby) (1970)

The Anatomy of Human Destructiveness (1973)

To Have or to Be? (1976)

Greatness and Limitation of Freud's Thought (1979)

On Disobedience and other essays (1984)

The Art of Being (1993)

The Art of Listening (1994)

On Being Human (1997)